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Hey everyone,

Just and FYI. There is a bit torrent website out there at the moment called "extremebits.org". They regularly take snowboard movies etc...and host them on their site just days after they have been released. There are others that do the same thing, which sucks, but extremebits, especially sucks because of the email I saw this morning from a good friend of mine who was venting to me. Here's what it looked like:

From my friend:

"Hey there, I just found my film on your site, "** ******* ***" by **** **** ***********. We would really appreciate it if you take this
film down. We worked really hard on this snowboard film and really don't
appreciate it being on here. I really don't want to get into a debate
over the ethics of downloading movies, but as a film maker who has made
snowboard films for the last 10 years, I would really appreciate it if
our film which has been out for less than two weeks was taken down off
this site. It's one thing to put up older films (even this I have a hard
time with) but how do you expect us as film makers to keep producing
quality work (something you guys obviously seem to like if you're
willing to steal for it) if there is no way to make any kind of profit
(which isn't a lot by the way)
Thanks a lot,

**** ** ***** ***********

Here is extremebits.org's reply:

"As you might have noticed, your account at ExtremeBits.org was banned. I
still feel you should get a response though.
I love how you say you dont want to get into a debate about the ethics
of downloading movies, and yet, you do exactly that when you inform us
how much of a hard time you morally have with it, and call it
"stealing". What you really meant to say was that you have the right to
voice your opinion, but we for some reason should refrain from doing so.
If you need money so badly, maybe you should set up a donation-button on
your site, and people who dont want to order a version pressed on a
plastic disc can donate whatever they feel the movie is worth. People
are not going to buy square wheels when there are round ones. If you
want profit, stick some ads in there, get some sponsors, what the fuck
do I know. Or maybe, you know, as they say "dont quit your day job". As
far as Im concerned, if you dont think you have the best job editing
movies and snowboarding around all day, you can stop doing it. See if
100 kids with a laptop and a camera aren't around to take your place.
I hate how you guys have become the new hollywood. Snowboarding used to
be about doing rad shit and sticking it to the man. For you its about
profit. You are the man and people are sticking it to you.
You should be proud people are excited about your film.
The ExtremeBits.org staff"

That is fucked up.

:)

El Jeffe · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:53 am Post subject:

What the fuck!!!!! I would track the servers IP and be on the way to pay that guy a visit right now.
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trent · gaper Joined: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1

I have a bit of a problem with this person. this extremebits.org. yes we do have great jobs. yes there are other "kids" out there that want our jobs. but there are a handfull of us that work our lives away to have these jobs. web sites like this that steal movies are not helping the snow movie business, you think your sticking it to the man, your sticking it to your self. Blow out the snow movie market and there eventually will be no snow movie market. I figure that the extremebits staff must be about 15 years old seeing there just trying to stick it to everything in there path. but the snow movie industry isn't trying to be little hollywood. if you would ever check your facts, before just vomiting out of your mouth with stuff you don't know about, the snow movie makers really dont make that much profit. this is a passion business and all of the money that is made goes into making another movie. with this said i hope that you can continue to think that your eXtreme by stealing and bringing down the snowboard movie business. cheers, i hope everyone comments on this topic today

DSvideo · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject:

that's the most immature response I've ever heard.

Can anyone find out who is behind this site? like has been said.... track that shit.

JP · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject:

here is the whois information.. probably fake and the domain would be hosted over seas..

what you should do is call the abuse numbers for this domain/register.. also you can find the netblock owner and submit an abuse complaint. this will shut them down. let me know if you need help.. keep contacting people and complaining.. that email that douche sent back is fucked. with that alone any hosting provider would shut the shit down..

Also submit a DMCA complaint.. google it.. multiple ones for each movie.

on further look see message below..

Domain ID:D125960686-LROR
Domain Name:EXTREMEBITS.ORG
Created On:16-Jul-2006 16:03:14 UTC
Last Updated On:30-Sep-2008 23:48:26 UTC
Expiration Date:16-Jul-2009 16:03:14 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:87F7DA6EF5C6A901
Registrant Name:WhoisGuard Protected
Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard
Registrant Street1:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Registrant Street2:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Westchester
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:90045
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6613102107
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:0aec6ebe4bab4c10bc9d0b51ba541430.protect@whoisguard.com
Admin ID:87F7DA6EF5C6A901
Admin Name:WhoisGuard Protected
Admin Organization:WhoisGuard
Admin Street1:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Admin Street2:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Westchester
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:90045
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.6613102107
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:0aec6ebe4bab4c10bc9d0b51ba541430.protect@whoisguard.com
Tech ID:87F7DA6EF5C6A901
Tech Name:WhoisGuard Protected
Tech Organization:WhoisGuard
Tech Street1:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Tech Street2:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Westchester
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:90045
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6613102107
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:0aec6ebe4bab4c10bc9d0b51ba541430.protect@whoisguard.com
Name Server:DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
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JP · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject:

[root@host3 ~]# nslookup !$
nslookup extremebits.org
Server: 69.16.234.115
Address: 69.16.234.115#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: extremebits.org
Address: 66.29.81.135

[root@host3 ~]# whois 69.16.234.115
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[Redirected to rwhois.liquidweb.com:4321]
[Querying rwhois.liquidweb.com]
[rwhois.liquidweb.com]
%rwhois V-1.5:003eff:00 rwhois.liquidweb.com (by Network Solutions, Inc. V-1.5.7.4)
network:Class-Name:network
network:ID:NETBLK-LIQUIDWEB.69.16.234.64/26
network:Auth-Area:69.16.192.0/18
network:Network-Name:LIQUIDWEB-69.16.234.64
network:IP-Network:69.16.234.64/26
network:IP-Network-Block:69.16.234.64-69.16.234.127
network:Organization;I:LIQUIDWEB
network:Org-Name:Liquid Web Inc.
network:Street-Address:4210 Creyts Rd.
network:City:Lansing
network:State:MI
network:Postal-Code:48917
network:Country-Code:US
network:Tech-Contact;I:support@liquidweb.com
network:Abuse:abuse@sourcedns.com
network:Created:20081001
network:Updated:20081001
network:Updated-By:admin@sourcedns.com

network:Class-Name:network
network:ID:NETBLK-SOURCEDNS.69.16.192.0/18
network:Auth-Area:69.16.192.0/18
network:Network-Name:SOURCEDNS-69.16.192.0
network:IP-Network:69.16.192.0/18
network:IP-Network-Block:69.16.192.0 - 69.16.255.255
network:Organization;I:SOURCEDNS
network:Org-Name:SourceDNS
network:Street-Address:4210 Creyts Rd.
network:City:Lansing
network:State:MI
network:Postal-Code:48917
network:Country-Code:US
network:Tech-Contact;I:admin@sourcedns.com
network:Created:20040212
network:Updated:20060327
network:Updated-By:admin@sourcedns.com
network:Abuse:abuse@sourcedns.com

%ok

that is where the network is.. its in the US.. you can call liquidweb. if they don't do anything let me know. i know a very large customer of theirs
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JP · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject:

[root@host3 ~]# nslookup extremebits.org
Server: 69.16.234.115
Address: 69.16.234.115#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: extremebits.org
Address: 66.29.81.135

[root@host3 ~]# whois 69.29.81.135
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]

OrgName: CenturyTel Internet Holdings, Inc.
OrgID: CIH-12
Address: 100 CenturyTel Drive
City: Monroe
StateProv: LA
PostalCode: 71201
Country: US

NetRange: 69.29.0.0 - 69.29.255.255
CIDR: 69.29.0.0/16
NetName: CENTURYTEL-NETBLOCK6
NetHandle: NET-69-29-0-0-1
Parent: NET-69-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.CENTURYTEL.NET
NameServer: NS2.CENTURYTEL.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-03-10
Updated: 2005-08-02

OrgAbuseHandle: SYSTE21-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Network Availability
OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-809-1410
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@centurytel.net

OrgTechHandle: NA397-ORG-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Availability
OrgTechPhone: +1-800-809-1410
OrgTechEmail: network@centurytel.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-09-30 20:40
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as you can see.. they have multiple servers in multiple data centers/hosting providers around the states. contact me privately
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R.Lang · snowfilmer Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Chicago

weak.

DSvideo · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

Great Sleuthing!

Does anyone personally have their current work being distributed on this site?

kingkezz · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

Do C&D's not mean anything anymore? I know Apple sure likes using them.

DTE · Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject:

I am spreading the word about this site to Hatchett, I know he does not take this kinda stuff lightly.
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DTE · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject:

Anybody been keeping up with what's going on with this?

http://business.transworld.net/2008/10/07/action-sports-bittorrent-tracker-draws-snow-filmers-ire/

Some discussion going on below this article as well...
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aaronl · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject:

kingkezz · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:13 am Post subject:

I was discussing this on another forum, and a poster thought this article was a good way to look at it: http://penny-arcade.com/2008/9/29/

interesting.

DTE · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: